She Lost 80 Pounds Without Ozempic. Here's What She Did Instead

Intro: Welcome to the Ask Dr. Boyd Podcast, where we ask real patients from my practice real questions to help you. We talk about hormones. We talk about longevity medicine. We talk about functional medicine. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode of Ask Dr. Boyd, we talk to Rebecca. We talked about her hormones. We talked about gut health. We talked about weight loss. She lost 80 lbs with no GLPs. Let's get into it.

Rebecca Diaz: Thank you. My name is Rebecca Diaz, and I moved to from Denver, Colorado to Spanish Fort and Fairhope area in 2025. I had been taking Biote hormones in Denver, Colorado. So, I actually found you by looking for a provider who provided hormone therapy. So, I found Epiphany Women's Health and called up, set up an appointment. I was thrilled that you were able to see me and made an appointment to come down and just found everyone to be so welcoming. And um so, we got started from our very first appointment having a wonderful consultation talking about everything that I had experienced so far with hormones and where I was in life and where I really wanted to be, where my possibilities were going. So, we have moved forward and a year and a couple of months later, I'm thrilled with where I am and just so thankful for all of the changes that we've made.

Dr. Boyd: Fantastic. Well, welcome. Thank you for being been on our podcast today.

Rebecca Diaz: Thank you.

Dr. Boyd: So, uh let's kind of go back. So, you started bioidentical hormone pellets in Denver how many years ago?

Rebecca Diaz: 3 years ago.

Dr. Boyd: Okay. so and that journey you obviously felt better. You see you you had at least two two plus years of pellets before you saw us at Epiphany.

Rebecca Diaz: Right.

Dr. Boyd: Okay. So, the day you came in you came to initially because uh we were Biote provider. Biote is our bioidentical pellet. And this is a national company and uh we're on their website as a provider locally. And uh but you had many other things that we talked about uh on that day uh year 14 months ago. So, kind of let's revisit that. When you came in that day, you had an agenda what you want wanted to do. So, let's revisit that. Tell me about that.

Rebecca Diaz: I had recently retired from a very stressful job. Moved down to Alabama and wanted to take control of my health. Just did not feel good. I was tired. Gone through menopause on 2023 around 2022 2023 time frame. And I had gained weight. It just seemed like the weight just kept adding little bit by little bit. The stress from work and not eating right, just feeling as if I was tired all of the time. Being told I had anxiety and depression. Being told that um my thyroid was just fine. I was taking the Biote hormones, but I wasn't sure if I was really on the right amount. I was feeling better. Not completely 100% yet and just struggling struggling with that feeling that every time I went to the doctor, told getting a new prescription.

Dr. Boyd: Mhm.

Rebecca Diaz: And I was being told that this was all part of aging. And I should just accept that this was the way life was going to be for me. And here's another prescription. Do you have any other symptoms?

Dr. Boyd: That statement and I I hear that frequently from people your age that we take care of it at Epiphany. They they go to their doctor, often times it's their family doctor, but even time even if it's their OBGYN that they've been with through their childbearing they get to 50-plus years of age and and many times it's less than 50. You know, it can even be as as early as age 40. And as you stated, I I felt fatigue. I had this weight gain.

Rebecca Diaz: Exactly.

Dr. Boyd: And I was told that this is just part of the aging process. In other words, Rebecca, you you really kind of just need to embrace this and live with it. Is that kind of what you felt when you came to see me 14 months ago?

Rebecca Diaz: Exactly. And you were the first person who told me that's not where it has to end, Rebecca.

Dr. Boyd: That's right. It doesn't.

Rebecca Diaz: And I sat there in your beautiful office on that beautiful white leather sofa and I finally felt a sense of hope.

Dr. Boyd: Okay. Great.

Rebecca Diaz: of hope because you looked me straight in the eye and you said, "This is not where it has to end. And this is not where it ends for you if you want to listen to me and you want to take charge of your life and you want to do the work. I can tell you how to fix this."

Dr. Boyd: Absolutely.

Rebecca Diaz: So, I made a decision then and there because someone actually listened to me.

Dr. Boyd: So

Rebecca Diaz: in me.

Dr. Boyd: So, we talked we talked about your history. I knew you're on bioidentical hormones. Uh we talked. So, we just talked about your height. You're you're a tall woman, 5'11". And if you don't mind expressing, how much did

Rebecca Diaz: 2025.

Dr. Boyd: So, May 20th, 2025. So, you were not happy with your weight. You you you felt fatigue because of that. You'd been to other doctors. They had patted you on the knee and said, "Rebecca, this is just part of the aging process." Why did ultimately I know I was a Biote provider, but when you walked in to see me that day, because you had been discouraged by other providers telling you this was part of the aging process, why did you think that Epiphany would be different? I know that you obviously you were there, so you were hopeful, but were you more optimistic that I was going to be helpful or were you guarded saying, "He may be just like all the other doctors, but we'll give him a chance."

Rebecca Diaz: That's exactly what I was thinking. He may be like the other doctors, I'll give him a chance. I knew that everyone was taking the shots. I had had the testosterone shots. The the Well, no, the GLP-1 shots. Everyone's taking the shots. I knew that was not the right solution for me for several reasons. I knew that that wasn't the right solution for me and when I was in Denver, I had had a doctor recommend to me that I have a full gastric bypass and I had an experience visiting a practice where they just wanted to immediately push me into having a surgery that would remove my stomach and completely change my life forever and I totally respect anyone who makes that choice for themselves, but I knew that was not the right choice for me either. So, I had a healthy amount of skepticism for any medical provider and when I went in to see you, my expectation was that I would sit down, we would talk about continuing my bioidentical hormones and probably we would talk about continuing anxiety and depression medication and all the blood pressure medication and you would talk to me about eventually getting on a statin for cholesterol and we would go through the same thing that I'd been with everyone else until you opened your mouth and started talking to me.

Dr. Boyd: Yeah.

Rebecca Diaz: And that's where it was different.

Dr. Boyd: That's right. And I do that well. I I hear from uh my patients that that I do talk well. The interesting thing is my wife uh sometimes says you talk too well as can you just be quiet. Uh one of the things that that is very interesting about uh again context. I was a traditional medicine doctor, saw lots of patients and you have to spend time with patients. You have to understand their history, where they're at, uh what they're what they're desiring to discuss today. It and it's been interesting this epiphany that I had 3 years ago and and the landing in this functional medicine space, this type of dialogue happens in our office every day. And so you do get time so that we can discuss how we we want to manage you. I love how you described you had all these expectations about things that I would do based on your history and based on traditional medicine and and we didn't we didn't do any of that uh which which which which I'm I'm very I'm very pleased with and I know you are too and that's that's why we're having this conversation today. The if I could have you identify what was the single most important thing when you landed in our office that day that you wanted addressed? What was the single most important thing that day?

Rebecca Diaz: My energy level.

Dr. Boyd: Okay, your energy level.

Rebecca Diaz: And my weight.

Dr. Boyd: Okay, that's two, just so you know.

Rebecca Diaz: Yeah, energy. Energy level. Energy level would have would have taken everything further, I guess. That's the beginning. I had to have the energy to keep going. I needed that.

Dr. Boyd: that. So so you would describe it as fatigue.

Rebecca Diaz: Yeah.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: Just tired.

Dr. Boyd: Yeah. And so trying to figure out how to get through your day and do I really have to do this the rest of my life? And and I understand now why people land in a chair at whatever 60 years old and and basically never get out. You decided though, I don't want that life. If so we're we you're 5' 11". You're 264 lbs. You'd been to multiple doctors. You had taken action to correct my hormones using the Biote pellet. But you still felt terrible. And so we our consultation that day was how can we manage your fatigue? Well, fatigue is caused by many things. We we we did not want to say Rebecca, it's it's because you're 264 lbs. Is your estrogen and your testosterone correct? In other words, are your pellets the correct dosage? Is your thyroid correct? And and and and I talked to you at length about we want you to be an A+ patient. You've heard this analogy. I've given it to you many times. 25 kids in the classroom. There's the F student. He doesn't graduate, but the other 24 do from D- to A+. Rebecca, I don't want you to be a D minus patient. I want you to be an A plus patient. And so we talked about optimizing you. And and but how do we optimize you? And so as as as that first day, our conversation, I did a panel of blood work on you, looking at your hormones, your thyroid, and um and so when you came back the second visit, and again, I know it's been 13 months ago. Um can you can you express at that point where you thought we were heading and ultimately where we are today?

Rebecca Diaz: What I found encouraging is that you tested everything. And being told everything is okay when just a regular CBC blood panel has been run that is the same test that standard general practitioners run on everybody

Dr. Boyd: Mhm.

Rebecca Diaz: from a 20-year-old male to a 60-year-old female, doesn't tell you everything that you need to know about someone in my position at my point in my life.

Dr. Boyd: So the thing that made the difference is that you ran everything.

Rebecca Diaz: Mhm. And you had comprehensive information about what was going on in my body. You checked all of the levels of my thyroid, which now that you've educated me, I understand really makes a difference. It does. So the time that you spent with me going over the results and the reasons why you ran those tests really helped me to understand why we were testing these these items on your list and what they were going to do for me to have the information that we we going to use.

Dr. Boyd: So I was encouraging you then to be your own advocate. So, educating you Rebecca, that's your body. That's your temple. How do we uh manage you so that you get rid of your fatigue?

Rebecca Diaz: Right.

Dr. Boyd: Uh how do we get rid of your weight? How do we get you down to to a point where we want you to be?

Rebecca Diaz: Right.

Dr. Boyd: And then let's start our journey together.

Rebecca Diaz: Right.

Dr. Boyd: And so, one of the things that um that I know you know, but we're we're we're having this conversation.

Rebecca Diaz: Mhm.

Dr. Boyd: I did not just say to you we need to do A, B, and C and then send you on your way.

Rebecca Diaz: No.

Dr. Boyd: We we had frequent visits. Our conversations from visit to visit were continuing to educate you. Again, that the create your own you being your own advocate. Rebecca, I can educate you, but you still have to do the work. So, a couple of things that you have done that I've encouraged you to do that have assisted you in this journey. Give me two of them.

Rebecca Diaz: You gave me a wonderful dietary plan to follow.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: me increase my metabolism.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: To help me reduce the inflammation in my body. You gave me wonderful tools to help me eat in a more healthy, well-rounded way. And to categorize the calories that I needed to burn, the protein I needed to eat, the water I needed to intake, and you made it simple.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: Okay, so we are working with hormones with me.

Dr. Boyd: Yes.

Rebecca Diaz: And I have learned so much. I realized when I came to see you that my hormones that I was taking with Biote needed to be adjusted a lot from the way that I was taking them or being given those hormones before I came to Epiphany. So, the extensive testing that you did on me made a difference in changing those levels and it really made a difference on how I felt. Testosterone, I had no idea had such an effect. Yes. So, explain to me again how testosterone affects women post-menopause and perimenopause and and during menopause.

Dr. Boyd: So, testosterone if you ask both men and women in medicine and outside of medicine, is testosterone a man's hormone or women's hormone, everybody's going to tell you that it's a man's hormone, which is true. It is. But, it's equally a female hormone. And the interesting thing about testosterone, if you simply look at estrogen and testosterone in a woman's life and say which one is most important at which time of life, you're going to say estrogen is most important as women are having babies. Estrogen is necessary to make an egg so that you can have a baby. Once your childbearing is over testosterone becomes becomes much more important for you than estrogen. Why? Because testosterone's good for brain function. So, we talk about brain fog. Brain fog is going to be much improved with testosterone. Muscle mass. As we age, we lose muscle. Old people have trouble getting out of a car, getting out of a chair. That's because their muscle is decreasing. Testosterone is important for maintaining muscle mass. Testosterone's more important for your bones as you age. Now, you're uh because you've lost all this weight, believe it or not, you're it Now, if we remove testosterone and you lost all that weight, your bones are going to become more fragile potentially than when you were 264 lb. You've lost all this weight and you've been on testosterone, so guess what? You've increased your muscle mass and your bone regeneration is increased when you're on testosterone. So, times in your life, if we just split it into pre-menopause and post-menopause, estrogen here, pre-menopause testosterone here, and menopause as far as most important.

Rebecca Diaz: That makes sense and I never realized that about testosterone. I always thought everything with women was related to estrogen.

Dr. Boyd: Yes.

Rebecca Diaz: So, So, when you look at estrogen, how again does estrogen affect skin, hair, connective tissue, and even joint pain? Because that's one of the things I had when I came in to see you with that fatigue was just joint pain all the time. I don't have that anymore and I'm exercising all the time. So, tell me about how getting the estrogen right affects all of those things.

Dr. Boyd: So, again, we just talked about most most most important here and here. That's simply if we if we have to describe one or the other. We, as you know, advocate for both as you age. So, if we kind of break things down from an estrogen and testosterone importance in your body, we'll start take estrogen first. So, estrogen is very good at maintaining moisture in your body. So, as we age, we have dry eyes. And so, estrogen will improve that. Collagen in your skin, nobody wants wrinkles and but as we age, we lose collagen. Believe it or not, estrogen is very good at maintaining collagen. And whether it's systemic, that means in your blood system, or estrogen on your face, that will improve collagen. If you if you go down below in the vaginal bladder area, estrogen is very important for the mucosa of the vagina and the bladder. One of the biggest risks that women have as they age is bladder infections because of decreasing estrogen. And you know, I hear it all the time. I've never had an urinary tract infection in my life and I started getting them when I was 52. That's an estrogen issue. And so if we don't take care of that, urinary tract infections cause scarring of the bladder. Urinary tract infections increase your chances for kidney infections, which can cause sepsis, which can cause death. So increase in your estrogen in your system is very important for your bladder and vagina. The bone aspect, estrogen is does play a role in bone health. Not nearly as much as testosterone does. In fact, if you look at testosterone regeneration of bone, you gain approximately 12% of your bone that you've lost over the previous year when you start testosterone. So it's a much better product at giving a patient testosterone than taking one of the bone drugs, which can cause a lot of side effects. So testosterone is very important like we just mentioned for brain health, muscle health, bone health, and actually and and and the obvious is the sexual part of it, okay? Now the interesting thing is is women, because they do not know, because of ignorance, because they have not been educated, think that if they take testosterone, that they're going to become a muscular woman. They think they're going to grow a penis. They think they're going to have hair growth on their face. Yes, all of that can happen if we give massive doses of testosterone. But at our but our company, we are very um specific in the way we do our blood testing. And and and there's two parts when I replace your hormones. I want you to feel good, but I don't want you to have side effects. Because if you go home and all of a sudden you're getting hair growth and you're getting acne, um you're going to be really unhappy with me. And that means I have not monitored your testosterone well. So, we use bioidentical, both estrogen and testosterone. We base the dosing on blood work and your clinical symptoms. We only use two products. We use a troche, which is a lozenge that you suck on every day, and we use a pellet. And the pellet goes underneath your skin. We have an algorithm for dosing. You mentioned Biote earlier. Biote is the only company out there that has an algorithm for dosing. So, Rebecca, your your input of information from your hormones is input into this algorithm with your height, your weight, your medical history, and it spits a dose out that is specific for you. Your dose is going to be different than Jane Doe's or Sally Smith's. And that's the beauty of pellets because we're going to get it right 99 times out of 100.

Rebecca Diaz: And that is one thing that has been so helpful in keeping me on track for everything else that I've wanted to do. It has helped me have that energy.

Dr. Boyd: Yes.

Rebecca Diaz: Getting that right and you and having that algorithm. I didn't realize there was an algorithm involved. That's wonderful cuz you recently, after I've lost this 80 lb, you recently adjusted my algorithm again and you've adjusted it three or four times over the course of me losing this weight. You've adjusted it so that it's the right amount.

Dr. Boyd: That's correct. And it's interesting. So, we are very, very, um, methodical in how we do your blood work for your for your dosing. There are practices out there uh that uh that like ours that and you know, so so a standard scenario would be we do your initial blood work and determine what products you need estrogen and testosterone-wise. And Rebecca decides am I going to do troches or pellets? I have the same conversation with you. You say I would like pellets. We put your data into the algorithm. We give you your dose. We have you come back in 4 weeks. We check your hemoglobin and hematocrit. Why? Because testosterone raises your your hematocrit. If your hematocrit gets too high, it can cause stress on your heart. And so we would say, "Rebecca, I need you to go give a unit of blood." And that doesn't happen very frequently. 1% of our females, 3% of our men have to donate blood after they get testosterone. So we do your hemoglobin and hematocrit, and then you come back at the 10-week mark, redo your blood work, check your hormones again, put them back into the algorithm, and then we may give you a different dose on your second round. And pellets are given every 3 weeks for most people. But life happens. Lose weight, stress, start smoking, you're going to burn through the pellets faster than somebody that is heavier. And so you would need your hormones if you want to feel good, you would want your hormones replaced sooner, uh, maybe even 10 weeks instead of 12 weeks. So we do algorithmic dosing for every single patient every single quarter. There are other practices, and I will just mention your Denver practice since you brought that up. You didn't feel as good as you as you wanted to. They may not, and I don't know, they may not do dosing every quarter like we do and and put that data for algorithmic dosing. And that's just from a clinical standpoint, that would make sense and that's why you weren't optimized in that protocol.

Rebecca Diaz: I had 15 minutes with them when I went into their office.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: I had 5 minutes with the doctor, 10 minutes with the nurse who was prepping me.

Dr. Boyd: Okay.

Rebecca Diaz: When I've gone in to see you, you've taken the time. You have taken the time. Emphasis on you.

Dr. Boyd: Well, thank you for saying that.

Rebecca Diaz: And that's what makes your practice. And that's what I really would want to impress on anyone and that I do impress on anyone that I try to send to you, because I have tried to send everyone I know to you, is that you are what makes the practice what it is and you are the person who has helped me. You are You have a wonderful staff. Everyone there is wonderful, but you took that time and that's what made me feel invested in myself is that there was someone who was finally there listening to me and taking the time to run the algorithm on more than just my hormones. Because you recommended things to me that weren't through your practice, things that I could go find on the internet, on Amazon and purchase, that would be helpful to me. And and things that I could do that didn't benefit you directly in any financial or any other way. They were strictly to help me. And that makes a difference.

Dr. Boyd: Well, thank you.

Rebecca Diaz: difference.

Dr. Boyd: So, one of the things you I are moving forward on is longevity medicine.

Rebecca Diaz: Yes.

Dr. Boyd: And and and so you're you're you you look absolutely fantastic. What you've done over the past 14 months, lost all this weight, no GLP-1s, just good you know, diet, exercise and and good living. You've And I love what you said. You landed in wonderland. The key thing is is is the one in your weight versus being 264. That was a great day when you were there.

Rebecca Diaz: a dancing day. It was a dancing day.

Dr. Boyd: So, now what we're encouraging you to move forward is longevity medicine. And so, longevity medicine is is three columns. It is hormone optimization, it's preventive health care, it's nutritional counseling. And and we have talked to you about peptides that are not the GLP-1 peptides that that replace peptides in your body that have decreased or completely gone away because of your age. And so, one of the peptides that you and I have talked about is Sermorelin. Sermorelin is a tripeptide. And the definition of of a peptide 100 amino acids are little tiny circles like a fence. 100 of them make a protein. Everybody knows that a protein is part of our food. So, chicken is high in protein. We need it for our body. It's a It's It's a energy source. Anything less than 100 amino acids is called a peptide. And there's different peptides. GLP-1 is the most famous. That's Ozempic or Zepbound that 80 million people are on. You were not one of those. But we have talked about other peptides, and sermorelin is one of those. Sermorelin is a tripeptide. And we give you this this peptide with the understanding that we want to help you heal yourself as you age, okay? And so beautiful thunder out there. That's that's the noise in the background. So sermorelin is given to you

Rebecca Diaz: That's our backup support.

Dr. Boyd: That's right. That's right. It is our backup support. It's It's exactly right. So sermorelin is given to you in a in a little shot, little uh it will come it's called an insulin syringe. And we have you take that nightly

Rebecca Diaz: Yes, I do.

Dr. Boyd: right before bed for 30 straight nights. And so for you, when I talked to you about maintaining health moving forward in your life, why do you think this is important in the scope of where you're sitting right there? Why is longevity medicine for Rebecca Diaz important?

Rebecca Diaz: I have found after losing this weight and getting this wonderful second lease on life that I feel better than I did when I was 45. I feel better than I did when I was 40, and I don't want to lose that, and I want to keep going. So if there's something that can help me continue the momentum and gives me another edge to keep that longevity going and keep up with all the fabulous things that I've started doing in my life in the last year, I want to give myself that shot. So I'm willing to give myself that shot of sermorelin, and it's going really well so far.

Dr. Boyd: So, do you agree that if you have, because the big argument for a lot of people out there is I don't want to spend the money on organic because it's more expensive. I don't want to spend the money on hormones because if my insurance doesn't pay, it's too expensive. Do you agree that if we look forward in life, and we know that at age 70, three to five uh a person, man and woman, has three to five chronic illnesses. They're on 10 to 15 medications. They have multiple doctors. Even if they have insurance, even if they have Medicare, with their drugs that they're on, their co-pays that they're paying, that those people in that group are spending a lot of money on their health. You would agree with that. And they don't feel good. Versus Rebecca over here. Rebecca says, "I want to stay as healthy as I can until the day I die." So, you're spending money on longevity products, on hormones. But at the end of the day, are we not Are both groups not spending money, but one is looking in a proactive manner to stay healthy, and other is a reactive mode because they are sick. What would be Tell me expand on that a little bit more. Why you think you want to stay in this group?

Rebecca Diaz: I've tried patching symptoms for years, and it didn't work. So, now that I've spent a year working on the root of the problem, and fixing that, and it's working, and I see all of the results of how I can live better, and how I can be the person that I have wanted to be for more than 20 years, why in the world would I change that priority.

Dr. Boyd: Right.

Rebecca Diaz: Why would I make anything else a priority?

Dr. Boyd: So, you agree that your health is paramount for happiness for life. Good health.

Rebecca Diaz: Oh, without a doubt.

Dr. Boyd: Yeah.

Rebecca Diaz: Why would anything else be more important? Because if you don't have that, you have nothing.

Dr. Boyd: Yeah.

Rebecca Diaz: And you're going to spend more money trying to patch the symptoms for not taking care of your health and your longevity.

Dr. Boyd: So, you have a sphere of influence. You have people in your life. You have your friends. You have family. Um is it your mission for people that you care about, and this is again this is one of our pledges that we have for our patients. We want you to become an advocate not only for your health, but for the people in your life that you care about to stay healthy. So, you can go on trips. You can go out to lunch. You can play golf.

Rebecca Diaz: Yep.

Dr. Boyd: Do you agree that that you have been a a tremendous positive for the people in your life to bring them along to your journey?

Rebecca Diaz: I actually think that I am. I feel that I am. I have more people than you can imagine who uh ask me, "How did you lose that weight? You look great. You look happy."

Dr. Boyd: assume it was a GLP-1.

Rebecca Diaz: And they automatically assume that it was surgery or a GLP-1. And I've told them my horror story

Dr. Boyd: Mhm.

Rebecca Diaz: of of having someone just try as hard as they can to push me into surgery.

Dr. Boyd: Yeah.

Rebecca Diaz: And I've told them how happy I am now, and I can still have that donut on a Saturday morning with a loved one if I want. We go on cruises, and I can go and enjoy my vacation and still focus on keeping myself healthy and doing the things that are right for me. And I can tell all of the people that I love what I'm doing to be better. And there are people who are coming along on this journey with me. I have very close immediate family who are coming along with me now. Little bit too shy to come and talk about it. But um but my brother my brother is um just doing great and wonderful things. And I have a very close friend who walks with me who's now you know looking at the type food she eats and shopping more organic and and we're working on getting protein levels up and I even talked with Lauren the nurse your nurse practitioner about the app that I use to track my food and um working with the supplements that you've recommended. So I I'm trying as hard as I can to be an advocate for everyone I meet. Um try to send my massage therapist to you. I hope she comes to see you. And everyone that I talk to I'm kind of wondering if I send too many people will you still have time to see me cuz I keep trying to send people to you but um

Dr. Boyd: But I So that that's that really it solidifies exactly why we're here together.

Rebecca Diaz: Yeah.

Dr. Boyd: You we we you became your own advocate for your own health.

Rebecca Diaz: Yeah.

Dr. Boyd: And now you have a mission to help others. And and that's really uh our our final statement today that I want other people to know. Get healthy uh find the correct provider. Uh if you don't jive with them if they're not saying things that make sense go find somebody else. Don't give up because it's your your body your temple and you have the ability to heal thyself uh if you find the right person. So thank you so much for being here today.

Rebecca Diaz: Thank you. Thank you for having me.